“Instant infatuation” coupled with “comic tantrums” and “threats to suicide” were used to define her story. One wonders about the (f)utiliy of men giving women a voice after obliterating her ability to make her own decision — in this case, the swayamvar. Atleast now people can comment on the articles… You have said “The authors are presently working on the novelised retelling of Subhadra’s abduction. But Sita evidently did not accept Ravana ever. print cannot dare to publish any criticism of Ouoran. With Krishna’s approval, Arjun abducts Subhadra (fig. Overall, all the ‘hindu’ scriptures do tie up in a consistent thread without any major contradiction and this is a very significant feature of all the ‘hindu’ scriptures. However, i would like the author to consider a few things. Give twisted explanation to unsaid phrase? Subhadra is an incarnation of Vishnu’s yogmaya. You’re using Bori critical edition which including stories from various versions. Just on being meths doesn’t mean that author can write anything on the name of journalism and save ass by writing Views are personal. you are playing with fire by trying to subvert the story. You (author) are a better historical source than the puranas? arjun, mayasur, romance. it here gain, bogus writers surviving on creating confusions and earning their living would come up and say… Thank you for taking the pain to reveal yourself. They introduced a subplot that wasn’t mentioned in the Mahabharata. Subhadra (Sanskrit: सुभद्रा, IAST: Subhadrā) is a Hindu goddess, appearing in the epic Mahabharata and other ancient Hindu scriptures including the Bhagavata Purana.In the epic, she is the sister of Krishna and Balarama, wife of Arjuna, mother of Abhimanyu and grandmother of Parikshit.She is the daughter of Vasudeva and his first wife Rohini. Krishna replies that swayamvar is the acceptable form of marriage for Kshatriyas. As the Bhagawat Puran began to be widely circulated, this new story of Subhadra and Arjun replaced the old. Did Subhadra license it? Mahabharat has several sub-plots, many of which are not adequately elaborated in the epic itself, but find detailing in other historical scriptures, for example Bhagvat Puran. 9 years ago. who was more beautiful draupadi and subhadra. We need to resurge human aspirations and emotions-this is revolutiobary times. His desires are awakened (kandarpa samajayata), and he asks her brother Krishna about her. It seemed as if that was the first night of them. The word used here is ‘aropyat’, which is strangely the same word that Valmiki used to describe the abduction of Sita in Ramayana. Arjuna was completely in love with Subhadra when he first fell into the beauty of Subhadra. Therefore, the whole concocted story presented here that it was her disinclined abduction is bogus and fakery. The article shows only half-truth. Do this Print and the herd of authors who contribute to this toilet tissue manufacturer have guts to write about the holy books of other Abrahamic Religions ? P.S. Do the different narrations by Print here say anything at all save two scholars of history are working in distant Canada to rewrite their versons of Subhadra’s “plight”. The second task required a bigger build-up. Technically the way we understand modern day ‘love’ was non-existent on Vedic era. And believe it or not, there are many stories about him which will be of great interest to the public – if you understand what is implied. She didn’t protested even once. With the moon shining at their head they began. The illustrious poet Upendra Bhanja’s Subhadra Parinay plays with the ‘abduction followed by saviour’ trope, but also finds a way to hint at Krishna’s will. Let me have the honor to give you a reply, Shriman Hari. B.R. We view them from our myopic, monotheistic (most of us being educated based on european-christain standards) point of view. I never knew we had such morans in journalism. You call this secular? Great to know you care! * A known relative. It’s kaliyuga.. And that’s why many are hinduphobic, Subhadra is an incarnation of Vishnu’s yogmaya. and most importantly Arjuna had always followed what said it’s right . It is very difficult to get the Ramayana and the Mahabharata. It may be true of Ramayana but am definate about Mahabharata. They were in action since Left parties supported Indira Gandhi in 1960 to be as PM and they took over our education system. I think this writer either says he lived in the time of Mahabharata or is unaware – Subhadra falls in love with Arjuna. In the guise of giving freedom (such views reject the absolute authority of God) and with it the protections that everyone was afforded in a God conscious society. Those 2 scholars, Mr. Prabhu and his glorious Team, the readers not just of Print and 7.3 billion human persons, are each experiencing such endearments of a better change, consciously and unconsciously. Anonymous. Subhadra went with Arjuna on her own wish. An attempt to de glorify Mahabharata in particular and Hinduism in general…. Subhadra’s painful story of abduction in the Mahabharata remains buried because of the nationalist glorification of Arjun and Abhimanyu over time. She is also worship along with Krishna & Balram in Puri Jagganath mandir. Whether you live in India or overseas, you can do it here. They couldn’t quite erase the act of violence by kidnapping. The premise of abduction is … Demeaning the culture that raised and nurtured you …….. The most dangerous statements are those lies with an ounce of truth of fake references. 1321 Disclaimer: All Logos and Pictures of various Channels, Shows, Artistes, Media Houses, Companies, Brands etc. My sympathy. Completely agree. The reason being is because you dont have an enlightened person in your life to make you understand things. Draupadi is furious when she learns that Arjun is returning to Indraprastha with Subhadra after breaking his oath. Agar itne secular ho, liberal ho, itna question Krna psnd hai toh pehle toh sources ko saaf tareeke se saamne rakho aise Todd ke nae… Dusri cheez harr galat cheez pe barabar aawaz uthao…. It’s nothing but part of a grand scheme to deglorify the Hinduism by left wing liberals. Does that make Subhadra tormented? To stop a evil, one can’t be like Yiodhistira to fight against evil. These so called mindless and good for nothing researchers think that whatever trash they write will be received by readers . Does it mean much really? She fell in love with Arjuna in the form of tridaNDi sannyaasi. When the Mahabharata acquired a national status in the colonial period, Abhimanyu and Arjun were reinvented as national heroes. However, over the last millennia and a half, this grey has slowly been erased. But, Subhadra was the true sister of Balarama, who wanted his sister to marry the prince of Hastinapura – Duryodhana and he objected her marriying Arjuna. Her elder brother Balaram is enraged when he learns of the abduction, but Krishna pacifies him. The PRINT is another name for THRASH The comment in the first response to this article is unfortunate. Find one chinese / japnese or Jewish student who can do something like this to their ancient scriptures ! Are Arjun and Subhadra cousins. Their academic profile shows so, learning things from foreign university but are able to puke about mythology. Looting, killing people, destroying others monuments and engraving their names, causing distruction to mankind. I want to remind you that article in a similar vein disrespecting Islam would result in your offices being bombed. Arjun also likes Subhadra. Write about them who kill their own when something new is said and they don’t accept because it’s not in their scripture. Itni nafrat or dimag me kachara late kaha se ho yaar. ( You will use this blank space for all the abuses) Arjuna forced himself and subhadra was victim of domestic violence and poor lady could not speak against it. beautiful mam. All such indecent liberties are forced upon sanatan dharm mythology. So we cannot believe fully; because from so writings has come through by many story tellers ; many writers, Playwrighters , literary, unliterary persons. I clear it once and all, I won’t be part of such Hinduphobic post which portrays false image. And this debate of right and wrong, dharma and adharma is the core of Mahabharata. Also, why are you so worried about a story happened 7000years ago. This is quite offensive to the hallmark work of Vyasa. Arjuna is twice exiled, first for breaking a pact with his brothers; and secondly together with them when his oldest brother has tricked into gambling away the throne. It also mentioned Subhadra was driver of chariot. P.S. Shame on you Shekhar gupta, shame on you. The play ends with the resolution of this absurd conflict. The work that The Print is doing will be addressed in same way with all forms oneday. Marriage between cousins has been popular all over the world in those days. It also meant that the Subhadra episode had to appear harmless. Such a simple explanation. Such a shame ! You save your a** by writing Views are Personal at the end, because you people (The PRINT) just puke everything shitty that you can deduce from your brain. THE CLIMACTIC EJACULATION ! Can you say the same for Sita’s view for Ravan before comparing the two? OS: The Midnight Moons (Subhadra-Arjun-Draupadi;Mahabharat), We need to bring this place back alive lol, Is it only me who often checks this forum hoping for something new. Nobody can save him from me.” Arjuna and Krishna face to face: Krishna with Sudarshan Chakra. So Vasudeva and Kunti are siblings. 3. Not negative thoughts. Am just curious if any wrote this kind of critical piece about khuran, would THE PRINT will print this . For 70 years no one had any chance to reply to these implanted confusions through elite media to win awards by appeasing the then ruling parties. It is getting abused. If they are Personal, F***king write them on blog or personal journal. A complete information on love story of Arjun and Subhadra. I think The print is only asking us to have a workshop on how to address the biased attacks of hinduphobia. None of its main actors are flawless. If Mr The Print you want to worship Kansa or Ravaana or Shakuni you can do. How dare you to not taking approval from me to put it here. A person is free to their opinion, I agree. There have been brutal layoffs and pay-cuts. With every passing day it becomes clear that The Print is an irresponsible second rate magazine, with an anti-India agenda, funded by anti-national forces. For the first part of your question: Shoorasena was the father of vasudeva (Krishna's father) and Prta(later named Kunti when she was given in adoption to King Kuntibhoja as he was childless). Shallow knowledge, punjabi swagger and bengali theories. Likewise all religions have to evolve with passage of time. But ………………. 20 % or so is extrapolated from other stories mostly Bhagwatam. Book III : Aranya Kanda – The Forest Trek, तस्यास्तत्सुनसं वक्त्रमाकाशे रावणाङ्कगम्।, न रराज विना रामं विनालमिव पङ्कजम्।।3.52.18।।. Hi Web Editor: But this very author seems to know that Subhadra’s haran was against her wishes . In no time, he had taken hold of her hand and pulled her onto the chariot. In love and war, there is no rule, if you have truly loved anyone you will understand, what is Love. I think these authors are wasting their time and someone else’s money by doing this “research”. May good sense prevail. I often ask why can’t accomplished persons like Mr. Prabhu not initiate moral classes for the children currently receiving rote on line lessons from their Faginistic Schools? Many devotees would have found it difficult to entertain the possibility that their god sanctioned the abduction of his own sister. Such is the foolishness of the editor to publish it. That’s why Arjuna abducted her, under her own accord. Facts as have been documented, even if they are considered bad by present day standards, need to be told, even if they are related to our gods and heroes. You cannot kill him.” Krishna said, “I am determined to behead Gaya. Subscribe to our channels on YouTube & Telegram, Why news media is in crisis & How you can fix it. Thanks for the pics Janudi...when are the SK ones coming? There is an old saying that one shouldn’t keep the Mahabharata in their home. So said to her, "You must first win the affection of Draupadi. I believe this is where ‘hinduism’ is distinctly different, throwing itself open to interpretations. Copyright © 2020 Printline Media Pvt. Yes! Atmatraan: Sanskrit- Saving oneself. Don’t be mordern Rawana giving reflection of sadhu, Be faithful to your ancestors, Do not abuse your Owen family tree , when it most needs you, there is always two kind of arguments one Good Tarka and the bed one is Kutarka, God (which ever god you believe in ) gave you intelligence use it for the good cause and to create hate, work for the betterment of society not to break it. No new discovery or inventions for Covid19 or a national importance . Now it is factory to produce naxels and librabdus who are just dumb shitheads. " Subhadra nodded eagerly at the prospect of playing a teacher to her jeeji. Subhadra, who is in love with Arjun, is conflicted when she falls in love with her saviour (also Arjun), and again with a man in the guise of an ascetic (also Arjun). You take western materialistic education and develop poor perspectives about spiritual matters. 9 years ago. Else they should be ready to accept criticism. Well you are drawing a paraller between Sita and subhadra apharan. * popular among women of Aryavart Shame on you and your thoughts. You have a vested interest in hiding the facts and it is evident from your rant. They led her to the centre of the garden, where the grass glistened as the dawn-time droplets of water that headed those emerald strands. 2. 1183 Arjun and Subhadra were first cousins. By rishuraj1234 Ongoing - Updated a day ago Embed Story Share via Email Read New Reading List. What has your Khalifas & Sulthans given. Maybe abduction is justified if done by the ‘Hero’? The writer of Mahbharat has not mentioned what the Subhadra wanted as mentioned by this author. In Odia, we find a sizeable genre on their romance. A comedy of errors soon follows. You make your own story and give your won justification. Kahan hai aapki site ka koi bhi article on how The Bible says “Any place where a menstruating woman sists is impure.”? These bongs are thugs to Indian society. Regional authors, who came from centres of Vaishnavism, also took cue from the Bhagawat Puran. We worship him for era, haven’t worship Shakuni or Dhritarastra. 2). Let us consider Arjuna chief traits — In the mind:- purity and impurity. In the epic, she is the sister of Krishna and Balarama, wife of Arjuna and mother of Abhimanyu and grandmother of Parikshit. Why would they not do it if subhadra had any questions against it. 0 0. Krishna says he doesn’t know Subhadhra’s true wish, if she likes Arjuna or not? Generations of authors have glossed over a significant act of violence by their heroes, without which the Mahabharata (in its composed form) wouldn’t have been possible. The premise of abduction is reduplicated and made so comedic that one begins to disbelieve the earlier violence of the act. It doesn’t tell us that the abduction had actually silent consent. The coronavirus lockdown in India has revived the Ramayan and Mahabharat series on Doordarshan for a younger generation, and has reinforced the collective silencing of Subhadra’s story, rather than ‘wronged’ Draupadi or Sita’s. After getting the news that Subhadra has eloped with Arjuna and seeing her stowed on the chariot, Balarama and other Yadavas are angered by this and decide to pursue Arjuna who successfully held them off. And it is this shade of grey that adds to its importance. Sustaining journalism of this quality needs smart and thinking people like you to pay for it. Like you, those who are born into a religion have to fearlessly expose the warts in their respective religions and not succumb to blind beliefs and faith – because they are scared. These guys of the Europe and the Middle East used to come and pay in Gold and buy goods made in India as they did not even have industry to make cloths. by Krishan . I dare you to write a similar piece about a Muslim/ Christian Holy books. Misconstruing and twisting the facts has become the bread and butter of these modern Indologists. Seeing his valour, Subhadra gives her heart to him. India needs free, fair, non-hyphenated and questioning journalism even more as it faces multiple crises. Subhadra was dressed in the red bridal outfits with golden ornaments , sitting on the bed decorated with rose petals. Because after abduction, Yadavas persuaded Arjuna to return to Dwarka. There is no reason to compare what would happen if a critique was done on another religious book. Show the wrong reference? RSS/BJP Bhakts / Gundas adore sex and majorities are Rapist. I request them to just introspect, and ask themselves, what wrong has Lord Krishna done to them in their lives? In Telugu, we come across Tallapaka Tirumalamma’s 15th-century Subhadra Kalyanam. Prabhu has the intelligence, technology, resources of 3M and capabilities to think out of the box. Once Bengal produced extremely sincere and brainy people. Click here to remove banner ads from this forum. Lord Krishna is Lord. And criticise Center and State relations when unity is needed and many State leaders are liafing timevand energy. Please Login or Register. arjun… NOTE THE RAVANA TONE – MOON RISING THROUGH DARK CLOUDS ! You forget how ayasha pleased the whole neigours as Mohamad was old &could not satisfy the teenaged aaysha. Why didn’t she scream? Minds for a virtuous stand out against impractical odds for Kshatriyas a grand scheme to deglorify arjun and subhadra first night Hinduism Left... 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